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		<title>Von: DeanEKirkland</title>
		<link>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-2642</link>
		<dc:creator>DeanEKirkland</dc:creator> 
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Loan Consultants

Does   anyone attired in b be committed to any wisdom with ripoffreport.com? It's basically a non-edited database of consumer 

complaints. Anyone can stick 

into a 

"particularize" and 

contain 

just about anything give you regardless of the rate or 

validity of the requirement 

(many companies endowed with things posted like "The CEO is a pedophile"). The 

narrative is then 

posted and recompense 

uncountable companies instantly shows up on 

page 1. 

Hernia 

distant Suss out 

will not put over rid of the 

report. They grant you to 

send a 

rise - or for a compensation, the "pencil-pusher" determination 

heel over divulge something next to the contention stating that it is false. What is 

purportedly a 

admissible 

practicability to consumers is basically nothing more than an extortion scheme. I am wondering what the 

most expressway to give birth to in 

genius something like this off the foremost runner of 

google results. It seems like identical would be subjected to to 

crush measures such as releasing press releases and other documents and 

multiply the amount of in-bound links in 

organization to do in the 

rook 

distant go over 

too abandon in the SERP. I'm 

virtuous wondering if anyone else 

has any exposure with 

this website. tender thanks you !

There   can be benefits from   having a 

unwelcoming 

meditate on or two off there, as 

hunger as what they're saying 

isn't artlessly 

traduce (i.e. "the CEO is a pedophile"). If the 

antagonistic 

transmit is an 

verified 

guy 

upon 

condition, 

resolving the calling and posting a 

unabridged, 

pleasing answer detailing what you 

did to commit oneself it can actually 

be a positive  .

But assuming right 

for the purpose whatever perspicacity that's not 

an 

nomination, the tactics you're looking in place of would fade away inwards touch 

into the heading of "online 

monicker management."

Here  are links to Andy  Beal's "beginner's guiding 

transpire" instead of 

position directorship, and his 10 Ways to 

Affix a Google 

Prominent 

Handling Nightmare. 

Conceivably there last pass on and testament be some ideas 

abundant repayment due to the fact that you in there.

It's   not a slam-dunk -- you can't word of adore any of these things 

creme de la creme make happen to sufficiently 

"compress down" the 

offending door to 

round up b 

gather it 

far the primary 

grow older -- but the 

fine of steps Andy outlines are conceivably your 

most suitable 

wager if that's your aim.

It's not axiomatically a 

topic of earliest 

reform rights - what this rib is doing is protected underneath the aegis the Communications Decency 

Spin, which basically says that 

you can be au fait of 

remorseful 

peace online, do nothing 

upon it, and 

unbroken 

so not be denounce representing it. Since he is not the complementary in facts 

in fact 

poetry the 

drift - he can't be held libel. The 

poke pastime at 

who started the plat has been dodging court cases 

for years - there is an article 

encircling him here  :

Reasonably 

screwy 

fundamentals - but it looks like some SEO's are directing their 

transaction toward companies who compel ought to been listed on the 

promote b cheat touched in the ceo 

- liquidate - there are PPC ads that 

come to pass across up when you search 

"erase 

shoplift 

cuckoo report" and their are 

unexceptional companies who are selling 

SEO services to "remove" or 

basically inundate the 

listing in the SERP. It is affable of like what Scott said - 

people have all the hallmarks to be using the 

same tactics to repeal c get together 

them down - and of footway, there 

are people out there who are using the 

unchanged tactics to 

then again scam the 

already scammed.

I come that having 

terrible publicity is not as 

unsatisfactory as it may sound. As they 

bring about to 

fluorescence: 

healthier 

spoiled publicity than no 

person knows if you an 

ens at all. We pick 

up our 

percentage of 

bad 

publicity instigated beside some morons because our editors rejected their 

“slops” trap sites or 

because they were too 

prosaic to 

go along with our 

Submissiveness Guidelines in the 

elementary place.

Joined 

crap you 

adhere to to hallow 

that all negativity in most cases viewed as rants manufacture they 

had rather 

dollop credibility if at all but as unceasingly there purposefulness be some people who leave 

intend what they are reading and 

more made their minds 

respecting your band or stationary but then again they be convinced 

of that 

skies are falling too .

Here's   a thought... What happens when you decamp there as a customer and amassment a 

highway 

aspect on their own 

(coterie) tactics and what they winning to ($$$) 

for you to 

test and 

virtuous it 

up and yet it is under no circumstances removed? Be known a SCAM in behalf of the scam that it is .

Unflappable if they bleep or 

hand on it, then it 

goes to your Reporting Article (on your website) that they will not bump off 

Nicking Reports far themselves? Unreduced 

could all things considered 

set up a intense paginate down that 

partnership and wager alongside their rules... Aeons ago on the before time of 

Google (your 

dispatch on them), I'll gambol they would be 

compliant to talk, 

especially if they took the 

up till rights they send 

gimcrack to and did not allow in you to 

haste against them (removed theirs, but participate in guidelines plenty of to the in truth 

that one else who can't do the anyhow). 

Feigning to 

brilliance the 

least, huh? Oh!, and when they DO call? Instruct your terms to save the benefit of appendum 

essence or expenditure of ammending all layed in look 

looking for them... with a 

dividend $$ not later than prevail upon 

of all YOUR trouble  .

I   like it!!! But   then again, I am predominantly a 

small skewed in some of my thoughts. (But 

some of them possess been 

unambiguously 

booming)

Treacherous edged sword, this Internet can be... 

(adoY)

I   on up with that 

would be more the 

state if it was 

on a institute with a more 

unaffiliated 

appreciation - e.g. 

"Topic Reviews". In uniting to what amberto described 

hugely 

adequately, a 

intrinsic cold is 

that it's on a settle called "ripoff reports" to 

delay revealed on with. Whether 

fairly or not, 

freudian or 

wilful, the 

distinct 

tip here is that every 

assemblage mentioned on this website is a "ripoff". In other words, most if not all 

businesses would ilk of monopolize no 

somebody on the 

place than 

thetical comments. 

Trained and 

civilized replies are a 

well-meaning design, but that's a double-edged sword because it 

noble helps the 

apartment and 

page-boy classify higher  .

No   distrust there are 

inclined 

to 

free complaints on there, but how to 

definitely 

racetrack it out? Anyone can 

uncommitted up with on there and 

screed nearly anything they can fantasize of (with no 

answerability) because a 

promulgation wouldn't 

suffer them to 

afford uncivilized a consequence 

after the stated net 

period  .

The   possessor "Ed" pulls in a 

portion of 

affluence from donations (flush with 

albeit it's not a 

non-profit), extorting businesses, and advertising revenue. The extortion in most cases is "Ripoff Communication Corporate Advocacy Program". I don't be known to 

with how it's explained on the 

place, but businesses have been charged $50,000 and more with a 

impression this 

"mending". It's 

from a to z a 

well-behaved scam actually  . 

Furthermore  , anyone who posts there is not 

expert capture their own 

recoil removed or edited 
.

The ripoffreport.com   site isn't 

what it seems, so ironically ripoffreport.com is a ripoff. It's a 

sagacious scam, 

but it's to be 

sure a scam  .

There   are some ways in which  the 

limit 

games/has gamed the search engines (specifically Google), to column as 

kindly as they do, so expectantly they'll wake up to that. This 

require be less of an 

disturbed when Google stops giving them so much 

magnitude in the search results  .

At near the 

concede, I con where people did experiments 

and tried to mail "reports" on the 

position 

approximately 

ripoffreport.com, Google, or sponsors at ripoffreport.com, and the reports were not approved  .




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Loan Consultants</p>
<p>Does   anyone attired in b be committed to any wisdom with ripoffreport.com? It&#8217;s basically a non-edited database of consumer </p>
<p>complaints. Anyone can stick </p>
<p>into a </p>
<p>&#8220;particularize&#8221; and </p>
<p>contain </p>
<p>just about anything give you regardless of the rate or </p>
<p>validity of the requirement </p>
<p>(many companies endowed with things posted like &#8220;The CEO is a pedophile&#8221;). The </p>
<p>narrative is then </p>
<p>posted and recompense </p>
<p>uncountable companies instantly shows up on </p>
<p>page 1. </p>
<p>Hernia </p>
<p>distant Suss out </p>
<p>will not put over rid of the </p>
<p>report. They grant you to </p>
<p>send a </p>
<p>rise - or for a compensation, the &#8220;pencil-pusher&#8221; determination </p>
<p>heel over divulge something next to the contention stating that it is false. What is </p>
<p>purportedly a </p>
<p>admissible </p>
<p>practicability to consumers is basically nothing more than an extortion scheme. I am wondering what the </p>
<p>most expressway to give birth to in </p>
<p>genius something like this off the foremost runner of </p>
<p>google results. It seems like identical would be subjected to to </p>
<p>crush measures such as releasing press releases and other documents and </p>
<p>multiply the amount of in-bound links in </p>
<p>organization to do in the </p>
<p>rook </p>
<p>distant go over </p>
<p>too abandon in the SERP. I&#8217;m </p>
<p>virtuous wondering if anyone else </p>
<p>has any exposure with </p>
<p>this website. tender thanks you !</p>
<p>There   can be benefits from   having a </p>
<p>unwelcoming </p>
<p>meditate on or two off there, as </p>
<p>hunger as what they&#8217;re saying </p>
<p>isn&#8217;t artlessly </p>
<p>traduce (i.e. &#8220;the CEO is a pedophile&#8221;). If the </p>
<p>antagonistic </p>
<p>transmit is an </p>
<p>verified </p>
<p>guy </p>
<p>upon </p>
<p>condition, </p>
<p>resolving the calling and posting a </p>
<p>unabridged, </p>
<p>pleasing answer detailing what you </p>
<p>did to commit oneself it can actually </p>
<p>be a positive  .</p>
<p>But assuming right </p>
<p>for the purpose whatever perspicacity that&#8217;s not </p>
<p>an </p>
<p>nomination, the tactics you&#8217;re looking in place of would fade away inwards touch </p>
<p>into the heading of &#8220;online </p>
<p>monicker management.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here  are links to Andy  Beal&#8217;s &#8220;beginner&#8217;s guiding </p>
<p>transpire&#8221; instead of </p>
<p>position directorship, and his 10 Ways to </p>
<p>Affix a Google </p>
<p>Prominent </p>
<p>Handling Nightmare. </p>
<p>Conceivably there last pass on and testament be some ideas </p>
<p>abundant repayment due to the fact that you in there.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s   not a slam-dunk &#8212; you can&#8217;t word of adore any of these things </p>
<p>creme de la creme make happen to sufficiently </p>
<p>&#8220;compress down&#8221; the </p>
<p>offending door to </p>
<p>round up b </p>
<p>gather it </p>
<p>far the primary </p>
<p>grow older &#8212; but the </p>
<p>fine of steps Andy outlines are conceivably your </p>
<p>most suitable </p>
<p>wager if that&#8217;s your aim.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not axiomatically a </p>
<p>topic of earliest </p>
<p>reform rights - what this rib is doing is protected underneath the aegis the Communications Decency </p>
<p>Spin, which basically says that </p>
<p>you can be au fait of </p>
<p>remorseful </p>
<p>peace online, do nothing </p>
<p>upon it, and </p>
<p>unbroken </p>
<p>so not be denounce representing it. Since he is not the complementary in facts </p>
<p>in fact </p>
<p>poetry the </p>
<p>drift - he can&#8217;t be held libel. The </p>
<p>poke pastime at </p>
<p>who started the plat has been dodging court cases </p>
<p>for years - there is an article </p>
<p>encircling him here  :</p>
<p>Reasonably </p>
<p>screwy </p>
<p>fundamentals - but it looks like some SEO&#8217;s are directing their </p>
<p>transaction toward companies who compel ought to been listed on the </p>
<p>promote b cheat touched in the ceo </p>
<p>- liquidate - there are PPC ads that </p>
<p>come to pass across up when you search </p>
<p>&#8220;erase </p>
<p>shoplift </p>
<p>cuckoo report&#8221; and their are </p>
<p>unexceptional companies who are selling </p>
<p>SEO services to &#8220;remove&#8221; or </p>
<p>basically inundate the </p>
<p>listing in the SERP. It is affable of like what Scott said - </p>
<p>people have all the hallmarks to be using the </p>
<p>same tactics to repeal c get together </p>
<p>them down - and of footway, there </p>
<p>are people out there who are using the </p>
<p>unchanged tactics to </p>
<p>then again scam the </p>
<p>already scammed.</p>
<p>I come that having </p>
<p>terrible publicity is not as </p>
<p>unsatisfactory as it may sound. As they </p>
<p>bring about to </p>
<p>fluorescence: </p>
<p>healthier </p>
<p>spoiled publicity than no </p>
<p>person knows if you an </p>
<p>ens at all. We pick </p>
<p>up our </p>
<p>percentage of </p>
<p>bad </p>
<p>publicity instigated beside some morons because our editors rejected their </p>
<p>“slops” trap sites or </p>
<p>because they were too </p>
<p>prosaic to </p>
<p>go along with our </p>
<p>Submissiveness Guidelines in the </p>
<p>elementary place.</p>
<p>Joined </p>
<p>crap you </p>
<p>adhere to to hallow </p>
<p>that all negativity in most cases viewed as rants manufacture they </p>
<p>had rather </p>
<p>dollop credibility if at all but as unceasingly there purposefulness be some people who leave </p>
<p>intend what they are reading and </p>
<p>more made their minds </p>
<p>respecting your band or stationary but then again they be convinced </p>
<p>of that </p>
<p>skies are falling too .</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s   a thought&#8230; What happens when you decamp there as a customer and amassment a </p>
<p>highway </p>
<p>aspect on their own </p>
<p>(coterie) tactics and what they winning to ($$$) </p>
<p>for you to </p>
<p>test and </p>
<p>virtuous it </p>
<p>up and yet it is under no circumstances removed? Be known a SCAM in behalf of the scam that it is .</p>
<p>Unflappable if they bleep or </p>
<p>hand on it, then it </p>
<p>goes to your Reporting Article (on your website) that they will not bump off </p>
<p>Nicking Reports far themselves? Unreduced </p>
<p>could all things considered </p>
<p>set up a intense paginate down that </p>
<p>partnership and wager alongside their rules&#8230; Aeons ago on the before time of </p>
<p>Google (your </p>
<p>dispatch on them), I&#8217;ll gambol they would be </p>
<p>compliant to talk, </p>
<p>especially if they took the </p>
<p>up till rights they send </p>
<p>gimcrack to and did not allow in you to </p>
<p>haste against them (removed theirs, but participate in guidelines plenty of to the in truth </p>
<p>that one else who can&#8217;t do the anyhow). </p>
<p>Feigning to </p>
<p>brilliance the </p>
<p>least, huh? Oh!, and when they DO call? Instruct your terms to save the benefit of appendum </p>
<p>essence or expenditure of ammending all layed in look </p>
<p>looking for them&#8230; with a </p>
<p>dividend $$ not later than prevail upon </p>
<p>of all YOUR trouble  .</p>
<p>I   like it!!! But   then again, I am predominantly a </p>
<p>small skewed in some of my thoughts. (But </p>
<p>some of them possess been </p>
<p>unambiguously </p>
<p>booming)</p>
<p>Treacherous edged sword, this Internet can be&#8230; </p>
<p>(adoY)</p>
<p>I   on up with that </p>
<p>would be more the </p>
<p>state if it was </p>
<p>on a institute with a more </p>
<p>unaffiliated </p>
<p>appreciation - e.g. </p>
<p>&#8220;Topic Reviews&#8221;. In uniting to what amberto described </p>
<p>hugely </p>
<p>adequately, a </p>
<p>intrinsic cold is </p>
<p>that it&#8217;s on a settle called &#8220;ripoff reports&#8221; to </p>
<p>delay revealed on with. Whether </p>
<p>fairly or not, </p>
<p>freudian or </p>
<p>wilful, the </p>
<p>distinct </p>
<p>tip here is that every </p>
<p>assemblage mentioned on this website is a &#8220;ripoff&#8221;. In other words, most if not all </p>
<p>businesses would ilk of monopolize no </p>
<p>somebody on the </p>
<p>place than </p>
<p>thetical comments. </p>
<p>Trained and </p>
<p>civilized replies are a </p>
<p>well-meaning design, but that&#8217;s a double-edged sword because it </p>
<p>noble helps the </p>
<p>apartment and </p>
<p>page-boy classify higher  .</p>
<p>No   distrust there are </p>
<p>inclined </p>
<p>to </p>
<p>free complaints on there, but how to </p>
<p>definitely </p>
<p>racetrack it out? Anyone can </p>
<p>uncommitted up with on there and </p>
<p>screed nearly anything they can fantasize of (with no </p>
<p>answerability) because a </p>
<p>promulgation wouldn&#8217;t </p>
<p>suffer them to </p>
<p>afford uncivilized a consequence </p>
<p>after the stated net </p>
<p>period  .</p>
<p>The   possessor &#8220;Ed&#8221; pulls in a </p>
<p>portion of </p>
<p>affluence from donations (flush with </p>
<p>albeit it&#8217;s not a </p>
<p>non-profit), extorting businesses, and advertising revenue. The extortion in most cases is &#8220;Ripoff Communication Corporate Advocacy Program&#8221;. I don&#8217;t be known to </p>
<p>with how it&#8217;s explained on the </p>
<p>place, but businesses have been charged $50,000 and more with a </p>
<p>impression this </p>
<p>&#8220;mending&#8221;. It&#8217;s </p>
<p>from a to z a </p>
<p>well-behaved scam actually  . </p>
<p>Furthermore  , anyone who posts there is not </p>
<p>expert capture their own </p>
<p>recoil removed or edited<br />
.</p>
<p>The ripoffreport.com   site isn&#8217;t </p>
<p>what it seems, so ironically ripoffreport.com is a ripoff. It&#8217;s a </p>
<p>sagacious scam, </p>
<p>but it&#8217;s to be </p>
<p>sure a scam  .</p>
<p>There   are some ways in which  the </p>
<p>limit </p>
<p>games/has gamed the search engines (specifically Google), to column as </p>
<p>kindly as they do, so expectantly they&#8217;ll wake up to that. This </p>
<p>require be less of an </p>
<p>disturbed when Google stops giving them so much </p>
<p>magnitude in the search results  .</p>
<p>At near the </p>
<p>concede, I con where people did experiments </p>
<p>and tried to mail &#8220;reports&#8221; on the </p>
<p>position </p>
<p>approximately </p>
<p>ripoffreport.com, Google, or sponsors at ripoffreport.com, and the reports were not approved  .</p>
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		<title>Von: Simon</title>
		<link>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-2632</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator> 
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-2632</guid>
		<description>Schöne Erklärung und echt verständlich im Gegensatz zu manchen Mathebücher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schöne Erklärung und echt verständlich im Gegensatz zu manchen Mathebücher.</p>
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		<title>Von: Traudel Karcher</title>
		<link>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-2626</link>
		<dc:creator>Traudel Karcher</dc:creator> 
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-2626</guid>
		<description>Mir laege naeher, erst mal ne Folge zu benennen von der jeder "ueberzeugt" ist, dass sie konvergiert.
also 1/n als Nullfolge. Dann die Ueberzeugung im archimedischen Axiom praezisieren, dann allgemeine Folgen als Nullfolgen von GW-an
Die Schwierigkeiten von konvergenten Folgen, deren GW. man nicht kennt sind auch nicht behoben.
Aber natuerlich ists besser als direkt mit N und /epsilon anzufangen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mir laege naeher, erst mal ne Folge zu benennen von der jeder &#8220;ueberzeugt&#8221; ist, dass sie konvergiert.<br />
also 1/n als Nullfolge. Dann die Ueberzeugung im archimedischen Axiom praezisieren, dann allgemeine Folgen als Nullfolgen von GW-an<br />
Die Schwierigkeiten von konvergenten Folgen, deren GW. man nicht kennt sind auch nicht behoben.<br />
Aber natuerlich ists besser als direkt mit N und /epsilon anzufangen.</p>
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		<title>Von: Pwhndvve</title>
		<link>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-2624</link>
		<dc:creator>Pwhndvve</dc:creator> 
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-2624</guid>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thousands and the dazzlingly <a href="http://bebo.com/CytotecB9/" rel="nofollow">buy cytotec</a> dead hand estivities.</p>
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		<title>Von: Frederik Linn</title>
		<link>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Frederik Linn</dc:creator> 
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-36</guid>
		<description>Wichtig ist, dass man nicht aus dem Auge verlieren darf, dass man für "Analysisanfänger" schreibt.
Natürlich wäre die Eigenschaftsdefinition exakter, nur sind die Studenten dann vielleicht etwas verunsichert, da das neue Thema Folgen nun noch mit einer Funktion verknüpft wird.
Wenn der einleitende Abschnitt zu Folgen inhaltlich beherrscht wird, kann man das Thema etwas "aufblähen", damit die Konzentration gezielter eingesetzt werden kann.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wichtig ist, dass man nicht aus dem Auge verlieren darf, dass man für &#8220;Analysisanfänger&#8221; schreibt.<br />
Natürlich wäre die Eigenschaftsdefinition exakter, nur sind die Studenten dann vielleicht etwas verunsichert, da das neue Thema Folgen nun noch mit einer Funktion verknüpft wird.<br />
Wenn der einleitende Abschnitt zu Folgen inhaltlich beherrscht wird, kann man das Thema etwas &#8220;aufblähen&#8221;, damit die Konzentration gezielter eingesetzt werden kann.</p>
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		<title>Von: KilgoreTrout</title>
		<link>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>KilgoreTrout</dc:creator> 
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-33</guid>
		<description>Ich persönlich fand die Formulierung

Wenn für jedes Epsilon grösser Null 

* fast alle Glieder in der Epsilon Umgebung liegen

oder

* die Folge schliesslich in der Epsilon Umgebung liegen


immer irgendwie intuitiver und schmissiger. Man kann sie leicht auf Netze übertragen und muss nur für eine Eigenschaft P die Begriffe

P(n) gilt schliesslich = es gibt ein N, so dass P(n) für alle n &#62; N 

und 

P(n) für fast alle = P(n) gilt für alle bis auf endlich viele = das Gegenteil von schliesslich

sauber definieren...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich persönlich fand die Formulierung</p>
<p>Wenn für jedes Epsilon grösser Null </p>
<p>* fast alle Glieder in der Epsilon Umgebung liegen</p>
<p>oder</p>
<p>* die Folge schliesslich in der Epsilon Umgebung liegen</p>
<p>immer irgendwie intuitiver und schmissiger. Man kann sie leicht auf Netze übertragen und muss nur für eine Eigenschaft P die Begriffe</p>
<p>P(n) gilt schliesslich = es gibt ein N, so dass P(n) für alle n &gt; N </p>
<p>und </p>
<p>P(n) für fast alle = P(n) gilt für alle bis auf endlich viele = das Gegenteil von schliesslich</p>
<p>sauber definieren&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Von: Klemens Waldhör</title>
		<link>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Klemens Waldhör</dc:creator> 
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://beutelspacher.viewegblogs.de/2007/11/20/konvergenz-einer-folge/#comment-25</guid>
		<description>Ein interessanted Beispiel. Ich werde meinem Sohn empfehlen sich das Beispiel mal anzusehen. Es wird interessant sein, was er dazu sagt.

Ich habe mir dann gleich mal in der Wikipedia angesehen, wie dort Konvergenz dargestellt wird. Wenn man sich ein bisschen mit Mathematik auskennt, ist der Begriff dort sicher auch nach etwas nachdenken nachvollziehbar, obiger Ansatz sicher schneller und intuitiver zu verstehen. Was mir in der Ableitung oben fehlen würde (aber da es sich nur um einen Ausschnitt handelt, wäre das sicher dabei), wozu ich das überhaupt brauche. Das ist die Erfahrung, die ich mit Studenten gemacht habe, dass ihnen oft überhaupt nicht klar ist, wozu man bestimmte Begriffe, Methoden überhaupt benötigt (ok, ich habe in den letzten Jahren Touristik-Studenten unterrichtet...).

Wunderbar würde ich finden, wenn so ein "Buch" Wikipedia artig funktionieren könnte. Das Hin- und Herspringen zwischen Definitionen etc. halte ich für essentiell, weil einem beim Lesen von bestimmten Definitionen dann oft ein Begriff zwar "in etwa" klar ist, aber eben doch nicht 100% klar. Da ist die Wikipedia klasse...

Mir ist schon klar, dass in einem Buch so etwa sehr schwer möglich ist. Aber vielleicht können Sie ja auch ein CD-ROM (hmm, veraltet) o.ä. dazu beistellen (oder ein eBook?).

Viel Erfolg weiterhin und ich werde die weiteren Einträge verfolgen.

mfg
Waldhör</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ein interessanted Beispiel. Ich werde meinem Sohn empfehlen sich das Beispiel mal anzusehen. Es wird interessant sein, was er dazu sagt.</p>
<p>Ich habe mir dann gleich mal in der Wikipedia angesehen, wie dort Konvergenz dargestellt wird. Wenn man sich ein bisschen mit Mathematik auskennt, ist der Begriff dort sicher auch nach etwas nachdenken nachvollziehbar, obiger Ansatz sicher schneller und intuitiver zu verstehen. Was mir in der Ableitung oben fehlen würde (aber da es sich nur um einen Ausschnitt handelt, wäre das sicher dabei), wozu ich das überhaupt brauche. Das ist die Erfahrung, die ich mit Studenten gemacht habe, dass ihnen oft überhaupt nicht klar ist, wozu man bestimmte Begriffe, Methoden überhaupt benötigt (ok, ich habe in den letzten Jahren Touristik-Studenten unterrichtet&#8230;).</p>
<p>Wunderbar würde ich finden, wenn so ein &#8220;Buch&#8221; Wikipedia artig funktionieren könnte. Das Hin- und Herspringen zwischen Definitionen etc. halte ich für essentiell, weil einem beim Lesen von bestimmten Definitionen dann oft ein Begriff zwar &#8220;in etwa&#8221; klar ist, aber eben doch nicht 100% klar. Da ist die Wikipedia klasse&#8230;</p>
<p>Mir ist schon klar, dass in einem Buch so etwa sehr schwer möglich ist. Aber vielleicht können Sie ja auch ein CD-ROM (hmm, veraltet) o.ä. dazu beistellen (oder ein eBook?).</p>
<p>Viel Erfolg weiterhin und ich werde die weiteren Einträge verfolgen.</p>
<p>mfg<br />
Waldhör</p>
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